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Reena
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amy,
I'm not kwf but what I usually do when I have no milk powder is, I replace water with milk. In this instance, I'll use 160ml milk and omit milk powder. HTHs.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have substituted coffeemate powder for milk powder before....otherwise sub milk for water and omit milk powder as suggested above.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bake this this morning. I find the dough very soft and quite difficult and different from the normal bread dough I use to bake. Is it correct. Result: sides are pale looking, and bread very soft . could it be because I added raisins to it? Can anyone help ?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried making this cream cheese bread last evening using the bread machine. Very happy with the results, its shape and colour. Most importantly, the bread is soft and fluffy. Thanks for the recipe.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry... i've got a silly question... do we need to grease the loaf pan before putting the dough in to proof?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Gin,
Yes, you need to grease the pan before putting in the dough.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my bread dough is sticky after 1st proofing. does it mean it's not ready yet?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joykhoo,
You did not mention if you made this by hand or with a bread machine.

Assume it is by hand:
the dough will start out being very sticky, and very messy when you first started the knead... after about 15min kneading, it should get more elastic and tacky (not sticky). Then it is ready for 1st proof. Tacky means something like the post-it-pad when you touch it with your fingers.

Once it is ready for first proof, you grease the dough before putting it into the grease bowl. When the 1st proof is complete, it should not be sticky anymore.

basically proofing will not change the stickiness... kneading will.

Good luck.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Joykhoo

I just check my journal, it actually took me 30min of kneading!
http://happycup.blogspot.com/2008/05/cream-cheese-bread.html

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coolcookie wrote:
Joykhoo,
You did not mention if you made this by hand or with a bread machine.

Assume it is by hand:
the dough will start out being very sticky, and very messy when you first started the knead... after about 15min kneading, it should get more elastic and tacky (not sticky). Then it is ready for 1st proof. Tacky means something like the post-it-pad when you touch it with your fingers.

Once it is ready for first proof, you grease the dough before putting it into the grease bowl. When the 1st proof is complete, it should not be sticky anymore.

basically proofing will not change the stickiness... kneading will.

Good luck.


i forgot to mention i used the breadmaker to knead it. does it mean the maker didnt knead enough?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I do not hv any experience in bm. Hope other forummer can help you.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello..

How do I know if the dough is ready, ie. elastic and smooth? How long should it be knead using Kitchen Aid? Please advise. Wanted to try but worried it will turn out as stone.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi Kate, I usually set my breadmachine to dough setting which will last 45 minutes from mixing till dough is ready. From there I took it out and punch it down and put into a loaf tin or shape it into hotdog buns or whatever that took my fancy, and let it proof till doubled in size before I bake it in the oven. Here're a couple of pictures of what I baked last weekend.
in a loaf

and into buns..

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:40 am    Post subject: window pane Reply with quote

Kate, try the "window pane method"....meaning, take a small piece of dough and stretch it out as far as possible......if you can do this without tearing the dough and the thin layer in the middle is almost transparent (lt allows light to shine thru like a window pane) then you have kneaded enough...if not, knead more until you get the dough to stretch without tearing as above. Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Asan

Thanks for the useful tip! I will try that out this weekends Very Happy

Cheers
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KWF

I made this bread today. I hand kneaded it for 20 mins but the dough did not rise. I actually used normal temp water, was I supposed to use luke warm water so that the yeast can react to it ? Anyway, the bread tasted quite okay. It was soft but not puffy.

I am thinking of trying it again after hearing your comments.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cclarice82 wrote:
KWF

I made this bread today. I hand kneaded it for 20 mins but the dough did not rise. I actually used normal temp water, was I supposed to use luke warm water so that the yeast can react to it ? Anyway, the bread tasted quite okay. It was soft but not puffy.

I am thinking of trying it again after hearing your comments.

Thanks.


Hi cclarice82, you mean the dough did not rise after the first proof? Could be the yeast problem. Are you using instant yeast? Can test if the yeast is still active by dissolving a little in warm water with a little sugar. Suppose to see foam for active yeast. This is my paper knowledge, i.e. I haven't tried it myself. If you suspect it's the yeast prob, try with a new pack to see if it's still the same.

To aid proving, you can leave it in a warm place (e.g. on top of a hot kettle).

Hope you'll succeed in your next trial.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oops, sorry, double post.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwf wrote:
oops, sorry, double post.


Hi KWF,
I am impressed by your bread baking sharing but MORE SO, I enjoy reading your MISSION IMPOSSIBLE.

These few days, I am so stressed out and after reading your post on ORAL exam, I felt so much better!!

It is my exact sentiment......every single words that you pen down, I was nodding away!

My son's oral is on next Tuesday....keeping my fingers really crossed! Your 'prediction' on how your kid will fare in his reading, picture telling and conversation exam are exactly what my 'prediction' for my kid too! And know what, he forgot to bring his chinese textbook home for revision over this weekend!!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mouse wrote:
kwf wrote:
oops, sorry, double post.


Hi KWF,
I am impressed by your bread baking sharing but MORE SO, I enjoy reading your MISSION IMPOSSIBLE.

These few days, I am so stressed out and after reading your post on ORAL exam, I felt so much better!!

It is my exact sentiment......every single words that you pen down, I was nodding away!

My son's oral is on next Tuesday....keeping my fingers really crossed! Your 'prediction' on how your kid will fare in his reading, picture telling and conversation exam are exactly what my 'prediction' for my kid too! And know what, he forgot to bring his chinese textbook home for revision over this weekend!!


lol...looks like I've found some kaki. Smile We should persist on. One day we will win the race. Luckily the oral topic for my boy is sth I've revised with him and he remembered - Hawker centre. Lucky him!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hej KWF

Thanks for the tips.

The 2nd attempt was great. My colleagues and my parents in law gave me the 'thumps up'.

Thanks again for the wonderful recipe.

Cheerio
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cclarice82 wrote:
Hej KWF

Thanks for the tips.

The 2nd attempt was great. My colleagues and my parents in law gave me the 'thumps up'.

Thanks again for the wonderful recipe.

Cheerio


Glad it's finally ok for you. Smile So the first was due to the yeast?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwf wrote:
Mouse wrote:
kwf wrote:
oops, sorry, double post.


Hi KWF,
I am impressed by your bread baking sharing but MORE SO, I enjoy reading your MISSION IMPOSSIBLE.

These few days, I am so stressed out and after reading your post on ORAL exam, I felt so much better!!

It is my exact sentiment......every single words that you pen down, I was nodding away!

My son's oral is on next Tuesday....keeping my fingers really crossed! Your 'prediction' on how your kid will fare in his reading, picture telling and conversation exam are exactly what my 'prediction' for my kid too! And know what, he forgot to bring his chinese textbook home for revision over this weekend!!


lol...looks like I've found some kaki. Smile We should persist on. One day we will win the race. Luckily the oral topic for my boy is sth I've revised with him and he remembered - Hawker centre. Lucky him!


WOW KWF,
You can predict 'exam topic' TOO! hehe.....Tell me, what will it be for my son?

Yes, just sow the seed consistently and wait patiently for reaping. Better late than never!

Cheers!
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